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		<title>Knowing what you like</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you know what you like &#8211; and what you like happens to be reading jackassed misinformed personal attacks , then the GNOME Foundation mailing list seldom disappoints. Personally, I love how someone &#8211; purely on incorrect speculation - can construct a personal attack, a sweeping generalized attack on the larger community, lay blame for corporate sponsor pull-out and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you know what you like &#8211; and what you like happens to be reading jackassed misinformed personal attacks , then the <a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-June/msg00004.html">GNOME Foundation mailing list seldom disappoints</a>.</p>
<p>Personally, I love how someone &#8211; <strong>purely on incorrect speculation</strong> - can construct a personal attack, a sweeping generalized attack on the larger community, lay blame for corporate sponsor pull-out and justify taking their ball and going home.</p>
<p>Of course, this is SOP and a getting to be a bit old hat (click on virtually any month in the archives, check for the same author for more of the same if you like) &#8211; but it&#8217;s always good for a chuckle.</p>
<p>Thanks, chuckles.</p>
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		<title>GNOME Foundation Charter: I&#8217;ve read it. Have you?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[GNOME is part of the GNU project and supports the goals of the GNU project as defined by the Free Software Foundation. Free software licensing has always been a mainstay of GNOME, and we must ensure that this tradition continues. GNOME will include only Free software. From the GNOME Foundation Charter. About Me I&#8217;m a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>GNOME is part of the GNU project and supports the goals of the GNU project as defined by the Free Software Foundation. Free software licensing has always been a mainstay of GNOME, and we must ensure that this tradition continues. GNOME will include only Free software.</p></blockquote>
<p>From the <a href="http://foundation.gnome.org/about/charter/">GNOME Foundation Charter</a>.</p>
<p><strong>About Me</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m a member of some organizations. When an organization interests me, I take the time to educate myself about them and then I follow a <strong>very complex decision tree</strong>:</p>
<p>If I like and understand the organization&#8217;s reason for existence, then I consider contributing.</p>
<p>Else, I just stay away.</p>
<p>I know that is just the sort of irrational and illogical craziness we zealots engage in, so read it a few times if it&#8217;s not clear.</p>
<p><strong>Not About Me</strong></p>
<p>You know what I don&#8217;t do? Join an organziation whose Charter I don&#8217;t agree with and then do my goddamn dead level best to disrupt and insult people that do.</p>
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		<title>GNOME Foundation Drama III: Part One: Moonlight</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t know about &#8220;free software&#8221;. Even after more than a decade it&#8217;s still an alien term for me. I know it is &#8220;opensource&#8221; for as far as I&#8217;m concerned. And that&#8217;s all I care about. - Philip Van Hoof, GNOME Foundation Member Usually I turn to HBO or Showtime to provide me with my [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: right;">I don&#8217;t know about &#8220;free software&#8221;. Even after more than a decade it&#8217;s still an alien term for me. I know it is &#8220;opensource&#8221; for as far as I&#8217;m concerned. And that&#8217;s all I care about.<br />
- <a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-February/msg00158.html">Philip Van Hoof, GNOME Foundation Member</a></p>
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<p>Usually I turn to HBO or Showtime to provide me with my drama fix, but the GNOME Foundation Mailing List is doing a pretty durn good job of spicing it up these last few weeks. It&#8217;s so good I might have to break it up over a few entries.</p>
<p><strong>New Thing: Same as the Old Thing</strong></p>
<p>This latest kerfluffle (not to be confused with earlier kerfluffles [<a href="http://www.the-source.com/2010/01/checking-in-on-the-gnome-foundation/">1</a>] [<a href="http://www.the-source.com/2009/12/gnome-and-the-gnu-project/">2</a>]) started up over <a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-February/msg00060.html">concerns for a strategic roadmap on GNOME</a>, the thread got all heated up by names that will be familiar to anyone following such issues (&#8220;trollers gonna troll&#8221; is how the kids say it in their rap music) , a <a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-March/msg00021.html">re-boot was attempted</a>, and now people are  unsubscribing from the mailing list[<a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-March/msg00107.html">1</a>][<a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-March/msg00071.html">2</a>].</p>
<p><strong>Jump on in, the water&#8217;s fine</strong></p>
<p>Like I said, there&#8217;s a ton of stuff to comment on, but <a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-March/msg00104.html">here&#8217;s one to start on</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>[Richard Stallman] Implementing a free platform for C# is a good thing to do.  If you would like to promote the use of C# itself, how about explaining to Novell and Microsoft that they need to fully implement said protection in an ironclad way for all the usual C# libraries.</p>
<p>[Miguel de Icaza] I spend a considerable amount of time doing this.   It has taken time, and there would be no Community Promise, and there would be no Silverlight agreement (the one that has no special Novell provisions) without this work.</p></blockquote>
<p>[Ace Ventura]&gt;Re-he-he-he-eally??<br />
What about the fact that the Covenant defines a &#8220;<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/newmoonlight_definitions.aspx#ConformingHost">Conforming Host</a>&#8221; as either a web browser or a launcher <strong>implemented by Novell</strong>?</p>
<p>Wat about the fact that the Covenant defines &#8220;<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/newmoonlight_definitions.aspx#moonlight3">Moonlight 3</a>&#8221; as only those portions <strong>developed by or on behalf of Novell</strong>?</p>
<p>What about the fact that the Covenant specifically defines the terms &#8220;<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/newmoonlight_definitions.aspx#Novell-Provided">Novell-Provided Copies</a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/newmoonlight_definitions.aspx#NovellDistribution">Novell Distribution</a>&#8220;?</p>
<p>What about the fact that the Covenant restricts &#8220;by license and technical means&#8221; Media Packs to work <strong>only with Novell-Provided Copies of Moonlight</strong>?</p>
<p>What about the fact that the Covenant specifies test suites that Microsoft will provide <strong>to Novell for testing the functionality of Novell&#8217;s Moonlight candidates</strong>?</p>
<p><strong>A simple request</strong></p>
<p>Now, having read the text of the Covenant, anyone care to tell me <em>exactly</em> how there are <strong>no</strong> special Novell provisions in the Silverlight agreement?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get mad and call me a zealot or make fun of how rms uses the internet or engage in whatever distractionary technique Team Apologista has queued up when someone raises uncomfortable questions.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t just attack one of those questions, either. You need to show that <strong>not a single one</strong> is a &#8220;special Novell provision&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>Extra irony</strong></p>
<p>You may appreciate knowing that Mr. de Icaza makes this assertion &#8211; that there are no special Novell provisions (when there clearly are) &#8211; while calling a FSF article on mono &#8220;a package of half-truths&#8221; and accusing rms of spreading &#8220;half truths&#8221;.</p>
<p>I suppose even a package of half-truths is a step up from a package of no-truths.</p>
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